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Wikiy
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 Posted: 16th April, 2012, 3:32 pm |
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Joined: 17th January, 2011, 10:57 am Posts: 34 Location: Croatia, Europe, Earth, Sol System, Orion Arm, Milky Way, Local Group, Virgo Supercluster, Universe
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Hello everyone. At the moment, i am attending a gymnasium (high school) and i've got slightly more than 2 years to go. Very soon (maybe even this week) i will be coming out. Now, the thing is, there are only 12 guys (including me) in my class. About 4 of them i find obnoxious and could never date. The other 8, if you count a 5% chance of being gay (i assume that's the world average) have a total chance of 40% for one of them being gay. So, there's quite a real possibility i wont get a boyfriend in high school (classes don't really communicate a lot so the gossip that i am gay would probably never reach any other potential boyfriends in my school). That doesn't bother me very much though. Having a person that would love me in that special way and, well, having someone to love so much is of course, my biggest dream but i've gone through the last 5 or 6 years being alone and i guess another 2 aren't that much. The thing is, though, that after high school, i will go to the university and in Croatia, you kind of just get 5 friends or so at your university and they're really the only ones you know/hang out with. So, in order to find a boyfriend while attending the university, i would somehow have to subtly make people know i'm gay. That's what i'm wondering about. How do i on the university and generally in life later make sure to make as many people as possible that are my potential partners aware of the fact i'm gay? Any advice generally on finding a boyfriend is welcome obviously. It doesn't have to be something that could help me now, just some rule or something that will help in the future. I just don't want to spend the rest of my life alone. You should probably know that i'd like to avoid gay clubs bars or any places generally associated with the "gay community" or "gay scene" because, well, i believe i don't really need those in my life. Unless you people obviously tell me going to either of those are my biggest chance of finding someone i'd love. Thank you everyone in advance and  you all. Oh i'm so emo tonight. 
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doglover
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 Posted: 16th April, 2012, 3:54 pm |
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Oh well this is easy. Almost all large colleges have an LGBT group/club so join that. Just make sure that the college you are interested in has that group. Best way to meet other gay people without having to go on sites or go to bars.
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Tal
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 Posted: 16th April, 2012, 4:28 pm |
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Well, the most obvious fact in your post is that you're looking for someone within your familiar network - school, university or friends in general. Unfortunately (or rather fortunately, depends on how you look at it), that's not usually the case. You have to meet new people, usually outside your comfort zone, before you have a real chance of finding someone. Not saying that there aren't lovely coincidences and cases where people date their best friends, but in the real world it's not particularly frequent. You're obviously a very mathematical / statistical person, but these don't work when it comes to relationships, especially gay relationships and particularly the possibility of one being gay. So I wouldn't rely on numbers. They can only make you disappointed and frustrated here. Also, I have to say that you sound very much like myself about half a year ago. I was never willing to even consider going to gay youth meetings, not to mention gay clubs and indeed places and events associated with the gay community. Then I realized I had to give it a shot or else I couldn't be a cynical bitch about it, and I was proven quite wrong when I did. I went to various gay youth meetings and bars and I honestly didn't know why on earth didn't I start earlier. It certainly helps when you get to naturally talk with people the same as you, and obviously be able to hit on a guy - any guy - in the comfort of knowing that he can only reject you because of who you are and not because he's straight. I met many new friends and, well, sort of met my boyfriend of nearly five months there. Also, I personally learned a lot about myself and hugely boosted my self confidence. So that's generally my advice, even you don't really like it at the moment. Whether or not you want to be associated with the gay community or that sort of places is your choice, and the simple fact that you go there doesn't make you the stereotypical flaming faggot (which you realize when you frequent these places and see that most people are in fact quite normal). Just try it. Once. Even just so you can say "oh well, I've tried it, it sucks" and be all condescending on people. I don't know which activities you might have locally, but try finding out about GLBT clubs in your area. Now, I'm certainly not saying that you'll meet the love of your life within 15 minutes of dropping in. But it certainly brings you closer than just calculating odds to date ugly people from your class, and even if you don't find anyone - you'll meet heaps of awesome people and learn lots. Finally, don't rush it. It's a cliche, but it's a good cliche, as far as they go. If you're looking for sex, that's fine. But if you're looking for something beyond, you really do have to wait for the right person. The wait can be rather frustrating, so I'm not saying that you shouldn't have fun occasionally, but remember that every disappointment brings you closer to happiness. Every rejection or broken relationship teaches you plenty of valuable lessons. Okay, that's enough advice for a few months. Now go out there 
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Jules
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 Posted: 16th April, 2012, 5:23 pm |
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doglover wrote: Oh well this is easy. Almost all large colleges have an LGBT group/club so join that.
In what part of the world it is so? 
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Wikiy
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 Posted: 16th April, 2012, 5:25 pm |
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Joined: 17th January, 2011, 10:57 am Posts: 34 Location: Croatia, Europe, Earth, Sol System, Orion Arm, Milky Way, Local Group, Virgo Supercluster, Universe
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Tal wrote: Well, the most obvious fact in your post is that you're looking for someone within your familiar network - school, university or friends in general. Unfortunately (or rather fortunately, depends on how you look at it), that's not usually the case. You have to meet new people, usually outside your comfort zone, before you have a real chance of finding someone. Not saying that there aren't lovely coincidences and cases where people date their best friends, but in the real world it's not particularly frequent. You're obviously a very mathematical / statistical person, but these don't work when it comes to relationships, especially gay relationships and particularly the possibility of one being gay. So I wouldn't rely on numbers. They can only make you disappointed and frustrated here. Also, I have to say that you sound very much like myself about half a year ago. I was never willing to even consider going to gay youth meetings, not to mention gay clubs and indeed places and events associated with the gay community. Then I realized I had to give it a shot or else I couldn't be a cynical bitch about it, and I was proven quite wrong when I did. I went to various gay youth meetings and bars and I honestly didn't know why on earth didn't I start earlier. It certainly helps when you get to naturally talk with people the same as you, and obviously be able to hit on a guy - any guy - in the comfort of knowing that he can only reject you because of who you are and not because he's straight. I met many new friends and, well, sort of met my boyfriend of nearly five months there. Also, I personally learned a lot about myself and hugely boosted my self confidence. So that's generally my advice, even you don't really like it at the moment. Whether or not you want to be associated with the gay community or that sort of places is your choice, and the simple fact that you go there doesn't make you the stereotypical flaming faggot (which you realize when you frequent these places and see that most people are in fact quite normal). Just try it. Once. Even just so you can say "oh well, I've tried it, it sucks" and be all condescending on people. I don't know which activities you might have locally, but try finding out about GLBT clubs in your area. Now, I'm certainly not saying that you'll meet the love of your life within 15 minutes of dropping in. But it certainly brings you closer than just calculating odds to date ugly people from your class, and even if you don't find anyone - you'll meet heaps of awesome people and learn lots. Finally, don't rush it. It's a cliche, but it's a good cliche, as far as they go. If you're looking for sex, that's fine. But if you're looking for something beyond, you really do have to wait for the right person. The wait can be rather frustrating, so I'm not saying that you shouldn't have fun occasionally, but remember that every disappointment brings you closer to happiness. Every rejection or broken relationship teaches you plenty of valuable lessons. Okay, that's enough advice for a few months. Now go out there  What if i don't have the confidence to go to a club? I don't know, i just find it hard to imagine walking in there all alone and...i don't really even know how to imagine it from then on.
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grahm
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 Posted: 16th April, 2012, 5:29 pm |
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Your math is wrong, you don't multiply the 5% by the eight boys. You actually have a 5% chance o finding someone. Just sayin'...
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CandyCorn
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 Posted: 16th April, 2012, 9:18 pm |
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Wikiy wrote: The other 8, if you count a 5% chance of being gay (i assume that's the world average) have a total chance of 40% for one of them being gay.
.95^8 = 66.3% chance of them all being straight. This is the only probability calculation I know how to do, but I can spot it coming from a mile away.
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Nilthing
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 Posted: 17th April, 2012, 3:20 am |
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I've met love interests at a simple gay youth organisation near me. It's not a club or bar or anything, just a place to chill with other gay people as friends and occasionally you find someone you're interested in. Search for some of those! They're surprisingly common these days!
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LuxVeritatis
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 Posted: 17th April, 2012, 5:14 am |
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Internet was created for these things xD
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Wikiy
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 Posted: 17th April, 2012, 1:27 pm |
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Joined: 17th January, 2011, 10:57 am Posts: 34 Location: Croatia, Europe, Earth, Sol System, Orion Arm, Milky Way, Local Group, Virgo Supercluster, Universe
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LuxVeritatis wrote: Internet was created for these things xD
When it comes to these things, it's more like Creepernet.
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