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Are there 'Gay Jobs' ?
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 Post subject: Gay Jobs
Unread postPosted: 2nd January, 2017, 8:08 pm 
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So whilst travelling recently I noticed that gay men have an extremely disproportional representation in the flight attendant industry and in high end retail why do you think this is? And are there any other 'Gay jobs' out there? this includes lesbians.

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 Post subject: Re: Gay Jobs
Unread postPosted: 2nd January, 2017, 8:21 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Gay Jobs
Unread postPosted: 2nd January, 2017, 8:33 pm 
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I think stereotypes dictated that all lesbians work in vegan cooperatives and all gays serve coffee on aeroplanes. I think, like all stereotypes, that's possible slightly grounded in reality, although I'm sure there are plenty raging homosexuals working in corporate finance. Perhaps these stereotypes are self-perpetuating, and gays find it easier to imagine themselves working in "gay jobs" because that's where our culture suggests we'd belong, or perhaps gay culture just means we're predisposed to certain jobs over others. Perhaps we're more liberated from masculinity than the heterosexuals, and thus our choices are made with less pressure. That said, the gays I know are doing such a broad range of degrees and jobs that it's hard for me to make a case for the stereotypes being completely grounded in reality.

Fuck it. The answer's "pornstar."


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Gay Jobs
Unread postPosted: 2nd January, 2017, 8:38 pm 
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Tbh even some pornstars are apparently gay for pay so who knows. I just think we should let people do jobs without stereotyping them?

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 Post subject: Re: Gay Jobs
Unread postPosted: 2nd January, 2017, 8:58 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Gay Jobs
Unread postPosted: 2nd January, 2017, 9:13 pm 
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I think you'll just find that the service industry and hospo just suits a certain kind of person. People that like tk travel or dont mind working in intense sessions before packing up for a while and living off savings. Maybe in general service, food people want to run their own cafes, bars, etc so they look for a lot of related jobs for experience.

I think more gay lifestylers might be more game for traditionally feminine hospo work but in the end its just service industry work; millions of people do it to fund their OE's.


  
 
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Unread postPosted: 2nd January, 2017, 9:14 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Gay Jobs
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Professional BoyToy is a pretty traditional gay job.

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I think it's just because gays are stereotypically more feminine and as such, they are attracted to female-dominated jobs like hospitality, fashion, etc.


  
 
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 Post subject: Re: Gay Jobs
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Definitely. Just look at the members of this forum. How many of the news members are interested in electronics/tech, mechanical engineering, ...? Not many is the answer.

Classical examples are hairdresser/stylist, performance art of some kind (dance, theater, ...). Writers seem to be popular as well. On more scientific side you have nurses and biologists. Oh an chemistry seems to be a very popular area of interests as well.


  
 
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Unread postPosted: 4th January, 2017, 5:30 pm 
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Definitely. Just look at the members of this forum. How many of the news members are interested in electronics/tech, mechanical engineering, ...? Not many is the answer.

Classical examples are hairdresser/stylist, performance art of some kind (dance, theater, ...). Writers seem to be popular as well. On more scientific side you have nurses and biologists. Oh an chemistry seems to be a very popular area of interests as well.

This is a load of bullshit, as are the prejudices that this thread is based on.

I'm pretty certain that this is all just sourced from confirmation biases, you notice gays in hair dressers and theatre because that's where you think they are, based on stereotypes. Besides, I'm pretty certain that there are far more guys on this forum interested in electronics, tech and gaming than hairdressing, dancing etc. But also: it's possible to like more than one thing at a time, not everyone has to be camp and like theatre or masc and like computers. When I was a kid I liked playing with dolls pretending they were babies, but I also liked throwing my action men out my window with their parachutes and pretending they were storming some enemy's base in the sandpit. I enjoy making cake and cooking things in my slow cooker but I also like making things such as my own simple computer (aged 14, it ran FORTH) or a mechanical television (aged 16, it never quite worked).

Whilst camp-ness is an historic part of gay culture, femininity =/= gayness, camp =/= gay, macho =/= straight. You all need to take a step back and realise that people do not have to fit into one box or the other, there are few stark black/white distinctions in people's character if you actually bother to look at them holistically (unless you're Pity (sorry it's a cheap dig I know heheh))

I'll admit that to some degree these biases could be based on certain professions being less openly accepting of non-straight people (such as police forces and football teams) but there are gay people everywhere, and they're not all clumped up in the creative industries.

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 Post subject: Re: Gay Jobs
Unread postPosted: 4th January, 2017, 6:03 pm 
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There seems to be a misunderstanding, no one has denied the fact that gays are interested in and are present in every single possible workplace however it evident their representation in certain sectors is disproportionate. For example in the fashion industry it could be 20% gay men as opposed to <5% in the finance sector etc. which could lead one to believe gay men are more attracted to this type of job.


  
 
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Unread postPosted: 4th January, 2017, 6:18 pm 
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rxxli wrote:
Definitely. Just look at the members of this forum. How many of the news members are interested in electronics/tech, mechanical engineering, ...? Not many is the answer.

Classical examples are hairdresser/stylist, performance art of some kind (dance, theater, ...). Writers seem to be popular as well. On more scientific side you have nurses and biologists. Oh an chemistry seems to be a very popular area of interests as well.


I can name four users who are able programmers and only one who wants to work in theatre/dance, and every other introduction thread seems to reference IT in some form.

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 Post subject: Re: Gay Jobs
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For example in the fashion industry it could be 20% gay men as opposed to <5% in the finance sector etc. which could lead one to believe gay men are more attracted to this type of job.


Depending on how they do those surveys you could be talking about visibility or the culture of the workplace.
Fashion likely has an easier culture where being out is accepted than finance. Further many people might be less inclined to report on their sexuality in fields where they view it as unimportant.

Tldr plenty of gays do Politics Philosophy & Economics degrees.

Andrej your claims are very specious. Gays arent less inclined to do STEM or comp sci than any other people. To suggest that less gay people would choose to be a doctor or nurse or are naturally biased to favour certain scientific disciplines is ignorance.

However as a counterbalance I'd suggest that some queer people might be more comfortable with going against career norms because they already challenge other norms. This may mean that they see a wider degree of career options than other people. Even that sounds pretty bull since being queer doesnt exactly mean you're a more adventurous person.

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rxxli wrote:
Definitely. Just look at the members of this forum. How many of the news members are interested in electronics/tech, mechanical engineering, ...? Not many is the answer.


Out of all the college age gays I know, here or otherwise, the vast majority are doing something related to tech/electronics, or science and the like. What the fuck are you talking about?

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This is a load of bullshit, as are the prejudices that this thread is based on.

I'm pretty certain that this is all just sourced from confirmation biases, you notice gays in hair dressers and theatre because that's where you think they are, based on stereotypes. Besides, I'm pretty certain that there are far more guys on this forum interested in electronics, tech and gaming than hairdressing, dancing etc. But also: it's possible to like more than one thing at a time, not everyone has to be camp and like theatre or masc and like computers. When I was a kid I liked playing with dolls pretending they were babies, but I also liked throwing my action men out my window with their parachutes and pretending they were storming some enemy's base in the sandpit. I enjoy making cake and cooking things in my slow cooker but I also like making things such as my own simple computer (aged 14, it ran FORTH) or a mechanical television (aged 16, it never quite worked).

Whilst camp-ness is an historic part of gay culture, femininity =/= gayness, camp =/= gay, macho =/= straight. You all need to take a step back and realise that people do not have to fit into one box or the other, there are few stark black/white distinctions in people's character if you actually bother to look at them holistically (unless you're Pity (sorry it's a cheap dig I know heheh))

I'll admit that to some degree these biases could be based on certain professions being less openly accepting of non-straight people (such as police forces and football teams) but there are gay people everywhere, and they're not all clumped up in the creative industries.


This is all very correct. HowevAr ('a' because gay), it's still fun to name some industries that cater more so to gay men. I'll give a few examples: Interior Decorating, Interior Design, and Fashion Design. I personally do not know a single straight man in any of those professions, although I know they exist somewhere. :cool:


  
 
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freakism wrote:
This is a load of bullshit, as are the prejudices that this thread is based on.

I'm pretty certain that this is all just sourced from confirmation biases, you notice gays in hair dressers and theatre because that's where you think they are, based on stereotypes. Besides, I'm pretty certain that there are far more guys on this forum interested in electronics, tech and gaming than hairdressing, dancing etc. But also: it's possible to like more than one thing at a time, not everyone has to be camp and like theatre or masc and like computers. When I was a kid I liked playing with dolls pretending they were babies, but I also liked throwing my action men out my window with their parachutes and pretending they were storming some enemy's base in the sandpit. I enjoy making cake and cooking things in my slow cooker but I also like making things such as my own simple computer (aged 14, it ran FORTH) or a mechanical television (aged 16, it never quite worked).

Whilst camp-ness is an historic part of gay culture, femininity =/= gayness, camp =/= gay, macho =/= straight. You all need to take a step back and realise that people do not have to fit into one box or the other, there are few stark black/white distinctions in people's character if you actually bother to look at them holistically (unless you're Pity (sorry it's a cheap dig I know heheh))

I'll admit that to some degree these biases could be based on certain professions being less openly accepting of non-straight people (such as police forces and football teams) but there are gay people everywhere, and they're not all clumped up in the creative industries.

Why are you bringing femininity, masculinity, campness, ... into this? It has nothing to do with what the person is interested in. I've seen quite a few camp straight guys in my life.

And yes. There are gays in pretty much any profession. I am just making a theory that the amount of gays interested in field x isn't quite the same as the amount of straight people interested in field x. Could it be confirmation bias? Maybe.

The few professions I've mentioned were just examples and not an exhaustive list. I still claim that this forum has a very small amount of people interested in any kind of engineering. I will try to make a bit of a statistic from the intro topics tomorrow to actually try and gather some usable data. I have a script almost ready, I just didn't have time to finish it today.


  
 
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freakism wrote:
This is a load of bullshit, as are the prejudices that this thread is based on.

I'm pretty certain that this is all just sourced from confirmation biases, you notice gays in hair dressers and theatre because that's where you think they are, based on stereotypes. Besides, I'm pretty certain that there are far more guys on this forum interested in electronics, tech and gaming than hairdressing, dancing etc. But also: it's possible to like more than one thing at a time, not everyone has to be camp and like theatre or masc and like computers. When I was a kid I liked playing with dolls pretending they were babies, but I also liked throwing my action men out my window with their parachutes and pretending they were storming some enemy's base in the sandpit. I enjoy making cake and cooking things in my slow cooker but I also like making things such as my own simple computer (aged 14, it ran FORTH) or a mechanical television (aged 16, it never quite worked).

Whilst camp-ness is an historic part of gay culture, femininity =/= gayness, camp =/= gay, macho =/= straight. You all need to take a step back and realise that people do not have to fit into one box or the other, there are few stark black/white distinctions in people's character if you actually bother to look at them holistically (unless you're Pity (sorry it's a cheap dig I know heheh))

I'll admit that to some degree these biases could be based on certain professions being less openly accepting of non-straight people (such as police forces and football teams) but there are gay people everywhere, and they're not all clumped up in the creative industries.

Why are you bringing femininity, masculinity, campness, ... into this? It has nothing to do with what the person is interested in. I've seen quite a few camp straight guys in my life.

And yes. There are gays in pretty much any profession. I am just making a theory that the amount of gays interested in field x isn't quite the same as the amount of straight people interested in field x. Could it be confirmation bias? Maybe.

The few professions I've mentioned were just examples and not an exhaustive list. I still claim that this forum has a very small amount of people interested in any kind of engineering. I will try to make a bit of a statistic from the intro topics tomorrow to actually try and gather some usable data. I have a script almost ready, I just didn't have time to finish it today.


I brought femininity and masculinity into it because a number of users brought it up prior to me and why they believed gays were attracted to certain industries over others.

Also the whole thread was based on Ethan travelling and wondering if gays were attracted to certain professions. It's not difficult to imagine that he assumed that a number of the flight attendants were gay based on their outward behaviour, acting camp or effeminate, rather than it being based on them disclosing their sexual preferences.

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