Gay Jobs

Discuss sexuality, whether your own or someone else's.

Are there 'Gay Jobs' ?

Yes
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No
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Pornstar
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Re: Gay Jobs

Unread postby Sullivan » 5th January, 2017, 11:18 pm

Academia's pretty gay, at least for the humanities. Probably half the guys in my graduate program were trying to fuck each other.
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Re: Gay Jobs

Unread postby TheBrunswickian » 5th January, 2017, 11:35 pm

rxxli wrote:Why are you bringing femininity, masculinity, campness, ... into this? It has nothing to do with what the person is interested in. I've seen quite a few camp straight guys in my life.

And yes. There are gays in pretty much any profession. I am just making a theory that the amount of gays interested in field x isn't quite the same as the amount of straight people interested in field x. Could it be confirmation bias? Maybe.

Pity wrote:I think it's just because gays are stereotypically more feminine and as such, they are attracted to female-dominated jobs like hospitality, fashion, etc.

Harry didn't bring femininity and masculinity into it, Pity here did.
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Re: Gay Jobs

Unread postby Dmitzi » 5th January, 2017, 11:58 pm

It's mostly a stereotype. Like most stereotypes there's a level of truth here and there but they're largely false.
There's no denying that one sees more gay people with 'feminine' jobs such as a hairdresser or a flight attendant. Being gay doesn't make people more feminine. The reason more gay people are in this industry is because they feel can be more 'in touch with their feminine side' without ridicule. There's probably many straight males interested in 'feminine' jobs that will simply suppress these desires in order to avoid ridicule. If we were to remove all stigma from a male having a 'feminine' job; the composition of gay and straight people would likely reflect the wider demographics.
One needs to remember that a job doesn't make people gay; being exclusively attracted to males does. The only major exception to this rule is a gay porn star (unless they're 'gay for pay' - which I myself place doubt on).
Why do you feel the need to label someone's sexuality on the basis of something as petty as a job? One of the hairdressers in my store is very 'camp' and flamboyant... yet has a girlfriends.
This whole 'masc' and 'femme' thing is becoming rather tiresome. Just be yourself without trying to label everything.
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Re: Gay Jobs

Unread postby Pity » 6th January, 2017, 2:04 pm

Femininity and masculinity always plays a role.
Hair dressing and other hospitaloty positions are dominated by gays because they are feminine jobs. The same is why you may often see butch women working in masculine jobs.
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Re: Gay Jobs

Unread postby TheBrunswickian » 6th January, 2017, 7:07 pm

Pity wrote:Femininity and masculinity always plays a role.
Hair dressing and other hospitaloty positions are dominated by gays because they are feminine jobs. The same is why you may often see butch women working in masculine jobs.

No, it doesn't. Why are we applying gender-standards and traits to professions? That doesn't make any sense to me.

You believe that hairdressing and hospitality are feminine, so whenever you find a gay working in those professions, that's confirmation bias. Same goes for your perceived "masculine jobs". What you fail to understand it seems, is that sexuality and femme/masc traits have nothing to do with dictating your interests. My sexuality doesn't dictate that I like politics, my sexuality dictates that I like dick.

Pity, to me. what you're doing is trying to divide the world into parts - to make the world black and white. Well I have news for you, that's not how humans function.
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Re: Gay Jobs

Unread postby freakism » 6th January, 2017, 7:14 pm

Can I also add that they guy that has cut my hair for over a decade has always had Sky Sports on on the TV, goes out with the lads and has had a number of girlfriends. He watches boxing, plays darts and has a "normal" man's voice, with no limp wrists. The one other place I've had my haircut recently has three guys with a PS4 hooked up to a TV and they all seem like generic not-hyper-masc, not-camp guys. I have no idea if they're gay/bi/straight. It's hardly a world of femininity?

I honestly don't really recognise half the stereotypes that people are coming up with, and I suspect that's either because they're subject to confirmation bias or because they're relying on lazy stereotypes that may have existed at one point in certain areas.
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Re: Gay Jobs

Unread postby Mawd » 6th January, 2017, 7:41 pm

The guys who cut my hair are almost to a T Muslim lads who bro'd their way over from Aussie. Conversations include, "how mad was town last night?", troubles with the car, mates problems with girlfriends, and the shop either has some kind of sport on or R&B music vids. Everyone looks like a member of DJ Khaled's posse.
Before that was a salt of the earth Maori guy who's entire barbershop was plastered with Rugby portraits from at least 30 years ago and every conversation, no matter who was in the chair ended up being about how the rugby clubs are atm and what the fuck X regional team was up to.
Honestly boys some of you need to be a little less full of shit okay?
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Re: Gay Jobs

Unread postby Pity » 6th January, 2017, 8:19 pm

Bruns, stop lying to yourself.
Everyone knows there are feminine and masculine jobs. Does that mean men can't be daycare workers? Of course not, but it's a feminine job and of course women can be policemen, but it is a masculine job. Gender stereotypes exist for a reason! Women are biologically more inclined to be more emotional, empathetic, caring, etc. whereas men are more inclined to be stronger, more assertive, and more logical.
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Re: Gay Jobs

Unread postby Mawd » 6th January, 2017, 8:32 pm

Funnily enough how often a highly logical, focused, goal oriented job like business administration gets lumped into a female role because some people treat it like housework. Yet isn't logic for men111!!!!??!!??
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Re: Gay Jobs

Unread postby Unseasoned Chicken » 6th January, 2017, 9:25 pm

In all fairness I think most of you are getting your hair cut at a barbershop and not a female hair salon where the stereotypical gay man supposedly works.
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Re: Gay Jobs

Unread postby Dessy » 6th January, 2017, 10:35 pm

As someone that actually held multiple jobs I seen men do some illogical ass shit while women bring all the logic to work (and get promoted more).





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Re: Gay Jobs

Unread postby Dessy » 6th January, 2017, 10:37 pm

Ethan™ wrote:In all fairness I think most of you are getting your hair cut at a barbershop and not a female hair salon where the stereotypical gay man supposedly works.


At college I get my haircut cut by female barbers. They're actually pretty good. And they don't waste any time. Obviously I can't trust them with certain hairstyle/cuts but that's more of a customers/training issue than a gender issue.
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Re: Gay Jobs

Unread postby TheBrunswickian » 6th January, 2017, 10:37 pm

Pity wrote:Bruns, stop lying to yourself.
Everyone knows there are feminine and masculine jobs. Does that mean men can't be daycare workers? Of course not, but it's a feminine job and of course women can be policemen, but it is a masculine job. Gender stereotypes exist for a reason! Women are biologically more inclined to be more emotional, empathetic, caring, etc. whereas men are more inclined to be stronger, more assertive, and more logical.

I guess women become teachers because their uteruses told them to, and men become policemen because their brains are so much bigger.
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Re: Gay Jobs

Unread postby TheBrunswickian » 6th January, 2017, 10:38 pm

Seriously here, stereotypes are not accurate and do not provide an accurate picture of a community of people. That's why they are stereotypes. Stereotype definitions being: a widely held but fixed and oversimplified image or idea of a particular type of person or thing. They are not accurate Pity.
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Re: Gay Jobs

Unread postby Pity » 7th January, 2017, 12:57 am

TheBrunswickian wrote:
Pity wrote:Bruns, stop lying to yourself.
Everyone knows there are feminine and masculine jobs. Does that mean men can't be daycare workers? Of course not, but it's a feminine job and of course women can be policemen, but it is a masculine job. Gender stereotypes exist for a reason! Women are biologically more inclined to be more emotional, empathetic, caring, etc. whereas men are more inclined to be stronger, more assertive, and more logical.

I guess women become teachers because their uteruses told them to, and men become policemen because their brains are so much bigger.


I'm so glad you have a firm grasp on basic neurological and psychological concepts.
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Re: Gay Jobs

Unread postby TheBrunswickian » 7th January, 2017, 1:23 am

Pity, please refer to above comments
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Re: Gay Jobs

Unread postby Russell » 7th January, 2017, 10:37 am

Definitely. That's not to say that there aren't gays working across a broad spectrum of different fields, but even if I look on my grindr right now, about 1/3 of the people on there will be a hairdresser or in performing arts. To date, I've actually only met three gay people in my city who are tradies, and 2/3 of them are bi not full blown gay. So you could definitely say that there is a correlation there, much to my irritation.

Also, you used the wrong 'their/there' in your poll. Can you please fix it, it's irritating me. Thank you.
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Re: Gay Jobs

Unread postby rxxli » 8th January, 2017, 3:09 pm

As promised I wrote a script to actually dump out the data from recent intro topics. The script went over 298 intro topics. Here are the results:

http://pastebin.com/4HhBvKt0

Some interesting data:
226 introductions used the template (75.83892617449665%)
Average age of new members is 16.788990825688074 years

Sadly it seems that most of the members are a bit too young so most of them just write school in there. And the sample size seems a bit too small. So I can't really do a wordcloud visualization on this. Or at least it doesn't make much sense. I will go over the data manually soon and see what I can get.
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Re: Gay Jobs

Unread postby Pity » 8th January, 2017, 7:19 pm

rxxli wrote:As promised I wrote a script to actually dump out the data from recent intro topics. The script went over 298 intro topics. Here are the results:

http://pastebin.com/4HhBvKt0

Some interesting data:
226 introductions used the template (75.83892617449665%)
Average age of new members is 16.788990825688074 years

Sadly it seems that most of the members are a bit too young so most of them just write school in there. And the sample size seems a bit too small. So I can't really do a wordcloud visualization on this. Or at least it doesn't make much sense. I will go over the data manually soon and see what I can get.


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Re: Gay Jobs

Unread postby Dessy » 8th January, 2017, 7:30 pm

rxxli wrote:As promised I wrote a script to actually dump out the data from recent intro topics. The script went over 298 intro topics. Here are the results:

http://pastebin.com/4HhBvKt0

Some interesting data:
226 introductions used the template (75.83892617449665%)
Average age of new members is 16.788990825688074 years

Sadly it seems that most of the members are a bit too young so most of them just write school in there. And the sample size seems a bit too small. So I can't really do a wordcloud visualization on this. Or at least it doesn't make much sense. I will go over the data manually soon and see what I can get.


What about GFO?
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