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The EU plastic ban

Unread postby Woollyhoolly » 29th May, 2018, 10:29 am

The European union will ban plastic.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-environment-plastics/eu-moves-to-ban-single-use-plastics-idUSKCN1IT160

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In short, the eu has proposed to ban single-use-plastics in the EU, namely plastic cotton buds, cutlery, plates, straws, drink stirrers and sticks for balloons. In the future these will all have to be made from renewable materials, like wood, or special bioplastics (which are biodegradable plastics that are not harmful for marine life). Pro's of such a ban are that undoubtedly it's good for the environment, and for humans too. If we want to continue living on this planet, we need to stop polluting it, as plastic pollutes even our deepest oceans, and ends up accumulating in our body when we eat fish. Also new, greener economies get a boost from this, and older more polluting economies will die off. Lastly, our fossil fuel consumption will decrease, which as a consequence means that there's less air pollution, which is good for people with lung-conditions and it's a start for battling the enhanced greenhouse effect. Shouldn't we do anything to help our planet and ourselves?

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One could argue though that the costs involved with greenifying our economy and stuff like single use plastics are too high, and that it's simply not worth to stop producing these plastics, as the cost is so low. Renewable materials won't be super expensive, but they will probably cost more than their current plastic counterparts. Is that heightened price worth it? Also people that work in the older more polluting economies will lose their job, which is bad. Furthermore, if we suddenly start to use less oil, countries like the UAE, Saudi-Arabia and Iran will suddenly have a huge chunk of their incomes wiped out, which could result in a global financial crisis due to the middle east buying alot of our products. The financial markets of the west and east are too intertwined with the middle east's to not also have a negative effect on our own economy.

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Re: The EU plastic ban

Unread postby Zephyrus » 29th May, 2018, 11:09 am

I'm from the UK, we don't know what the EU is - can you explain?
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Re: The EU plastic ban

Unread postby Hierax » 29th May, 2018, 11:20 am

Obviously a good thing
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Re: The EU plastic ban

Unread postby CRUSTY SEA MILF » 29th May, 2018, 11:56 am

It's a great thing. But you need to build a wall!
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Re: The EU plastic ban

Unread postby CRUSTY SEA MILF » 29th May, 2018, 11:57 am

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How about we invest in some Crest toothpaste and brushes for these people as well because they look like they haven't brushed or flossed in weeks. Sad!
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Re: The EU plastic ban

Unread postby Woollyhoolly » 29th May, 2018, 1:02 pm

I mean I'd have them raw me everyday of the week
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Re: The EU plastic ban

Unread postby CRUSTY SEA MILF » 29th May, 2018, 2:49 pm

Woollyhoolly wrote:I mean I'd have them raw me everyday of the week

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Re: The EU plastic ban

Unread postby KrisCross » 29th May, 2018, 7:13 pm

CRUSTY SEA MILF wrote:Image
How about we invest in some Crest toothpaste and brushes for these people as well because they look like they haven't brushed or flossed in weeks. Sad!

Don't pretend those fake ass looking reflector teeth ya'll Americans walk around with come from brushing and and flossing Brennan. :eli:
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Re: The EU plastic ban

Unread postby Dolly » 29th May, 2018, 8:15 pm

this is fucking stupid. how sad is it that u cant even enjoy a straw or disposable cutlery in europe..
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Re: The EU plastic ban

Unread postby KrisCross » 29th May, 2018, 8:52 pm

Dolly wrote:this is fucking stupid. how sad is it that u cant even enjoy a straw or disposable cutlery in europe..

lol not sure if you're joking or not.

This actually makes me really happy! I have been getting pretty anti-plastic lately, after seeing how polluted our oceans are in documentaries like Blue Planet II and visiting Thailand where there is so much natural beauty, but it's sadly contrasted by trash literally everywhere. Even on a ferry to the islands there were coke bottles drifting by when there was no land in sight. Living alone also made me notice the insane amount of plastic waste one person produces because of all the pointless packaging. I started to pay attention to it and not put fruit and vegetables in a plastic bag at the supermarket anymore for example.
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Re: The EU plastic ban

Unread postby Dolly » 29th May, 2018, 10:40 pm

if u dont wanna use a straw or buy water bottles then dont... it's stupid to try to force other people
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Re: The EU plastic ban

Unread postby Tim. » 29th May, 2018, 11:18 pm

Dolly wrote:if u dont wanna use a straw or buy water bottles then dont... it's stupid to try to force other people

Problem is we all have to share this planet and when do many people don’t care about changing behaviours either through selfishness or laziness then it’s sometimes necessary to legislate to change behaviours.

There is also a big push here in Australia to reduce/eliminate disposable plastic usage with a #BanTheBag campaign gaining a lot of traction over the last 12 months. I believe most states have already legislated and the two largest supermarket chains took the initiative to self ban plastic shopping bags at the tills. It was only last week I was in a supermarket with big signs saying no more plastic bags from 1st of June.
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Re: The EU plastic ban

Unread postby Dolly » 29th May, 2018, 11:48 pm

i can't believe im being called selfish for wanting to drink soda with a straw
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Re: The EU plastic ban

Unread postby KrisCross » 29th May, 2018, 11:52 pm

Dolly wrote:if u dont wanna use a straw or buy water bottles then dont... it's stupid to try to force other people

It's stupid to let the entire planet choke just for people's freedom to use plastic. This is far too important to not force people.
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Re: The EU plastic ban

Unread postby TheBrunswickian » 30th May, 2018, 12:55 am

Here in Victoria we are phasing out plastic bags soon. Its already been done in most other states iirc. Its a good thing
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Re: The EU plastic ban

Unread postby Cynar » 30th May, 2018, 4:41 am

Tasmania has phased out non-biodegradable plastic bags in supermarkets and shops and put a price on the bags they supply to try and promote the reusing of bags. I just wish we would start to crack down on the ridiculous amount of unavoidable plastic packaging that is encountered in the supermarkets here.

Europe is leading the way for the world with this initiative, It will take innovators and cost a lot money in the short term to adapt major economies to environmentally friendly ones but if that is what it takes to save our planet then it is a worthwhile investment imo.
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Re: The EU plastic ban

Unread postby Kaspar » 30th May, 2018, 6:26 am

I've been in the UK for a few days and it's interesting to see how it's doing regarding eco-friendly stuff compared to Poland. The most shocking thing I noticed was the fact that in bars, cafes and restaurants, you're generally given straws made of hard degradable paper (I've never seen such in my country ever).

There are small things like that and I think that the hardest part about it, which some people seem to miss, is the fact that within each one of 28 countries in the Union (UK's still in, soz :p) the situation looks differently, needs a different approach and will take different amounts of time.
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Re: The EU plastic ban

Unread postby KrisCross » 30th May, 2018, 1:17 pm

Kaspar wrote:I've been in the UK for a few days and it's interesting to see how it's doing regarding eco-friendly stuff compared to Poland. The most shocking thing I noticed was the fact that in bars, cafes and restaurants, you're generally given straws made of hard degradable paper (I've never seen such in my country ever).

There are small things like that and I think that the hardest part about it, which some people seem to miss, is the fact that within each one of 28 countries in the Union (UK's still in, soz :p) the situation looks differently, needs a different approach and will take different amounts of time.

I had the opposite kind of shock when I went to New York and they wrap your groceries in 2-3 plastic bags, because somehow that's more logical than making stronger bags right :err: In Belgium, just like many other parts of europe, non-reusable plastic bags have been banned for a while, so we were all a bit taken aback by the plastic porn going on.
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Re: The EU plastic ban

Unread postby Lochlan » 31st May, 2018, 6:41 pm

Dolly wrote:i can't believe im being called selfish for wanting to drink soda with a straw

That's the most uneducated white girl thing I've ever heard omg
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