Should people be allowed to sell organs?

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Should there be a private organ market?

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Yes, but the government should act as an intermediary like Iran.
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Should people be allowed to sell organs?

Unread postby Pity » 9th May, 2017, 11:02 am

I recently watched a documentary and read an article on the subject.

Apparently, 18 people die every day in the US waiting for an organ transplant due to obvipus shortages in donations. A well-known alternative would be to allow a private market for the buying and selling of organs; libertarians argue it gives people complete sovereignty and also would solve the organ shortage.

The article states that, in Iran, people can only sell their organs to the government in exchange for money and 1 year of free healthcare. The government then sells their organs to patients in the form of labor. This has virtually eliminated their waitlist. In the Phillipines, only natives can sell their organs.

The negative side of a private organ industry would be the possible exploitation of the impovershed, who are far more likely to sell their organs, as seen in the black market. However, selling organs could also lift someone out of poverty by using said money to pay off a farm or start a business.

Personally, I fully support a private market for organs as it expands individual liberty and autonomy and would help the United States and other Western countries close to waitlist. This, combined with voluntary consent in the case of an unexpected death, would both stimulate the economy and would save 18 people per day in the US. What are your thoughts?
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Re: Should people be allowed to sell organs?

Unread postby Fahmonthiya » 12th May, 2017, 3:17 am

The more you read it, the more you know more about it. Previously, I have to admit that I do not know much about them. 
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Re: Should people be allowed to sell organs?

Unread postby Mawd » 12th May, 2017, 11:25 am

No I think it opens too many murky shitty doors.
The first thing they'd say is that an individual owner of the body would have final authority over the sale yet there would almost certainly be abuses occuring.
Not only that but it's at risk of incentivising donating their literal means of survival to afford to stay alive further which would be inherently predatory on the poor.

More education on the benefits of listing yourself as a donor and more funding to stem cell or biotech research would hopefully cause less harm.

I mean with that free market plan it would take about a year to hear about cases of blackmail or child abuse to emerge surrounding this practice, it'd then take maybe another five years to hear the exposes on the inevitable cottage industries that would spring up.
That sad thing is that it might not even mean better funding for best practices in the associated fields. Imagine something as aggressive and predatory as the US self medication market forming around an organ transplant market. Imagine finding out that those in extreme personal debt were being offered a partial way out.
Imagine waking up and finding out that once again society had somehow sleepwalked into a mid century distopian novel.
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Re: Should people be allowed to sell organs?

Unread postby Erebos » 13th May, 2017, 4:26 am

Personally I think organs shouldnt be sold, but when you die it is automatically donated unless you sign a document wich makes that stop. That would be the best way I think.
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Re: Should people be allowed to sell organs?

Unread postby Togetik » 13th May, 2017, 10:29 pm

Sure, because giving power in life essential industries to the free market is always a good idea, and has never backfired at all ever
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Re: Should people be allowed to sell organs?

Unread postby GeoMorrisons » 23rd May, 2017, 4:35 pm

"allow a private market". No. While donations are scarce in many countries, i believe it is the right model, just perhaps doing a opt-out system rather than an opt-in system. A private organ market opens up opportunities for (behold conspiracy theory) killing people for organs, etc and may be seen as a option for people struggling for money, and therefore exploited into giving their organs.
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Re: Should people be allowed to sell organs?

Unread postby Turn » 24th May, 2017, 3:44 pm

No, opens up a shitty market.
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Re: Should people be allowed to sell organs?

Unread postby Dmitzi » 30th May, 2017, 11:05 pm

No. It would result in really poor vulnerable people being exploited for their organs.
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Re: Should people be allowed to sell organs?

Unread postby Unseasoned Chicken » 30th May, 2017, 11:12 pm

As long as I can purchase used reproductive organs
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Re: Should people be allowed to sell organs?

Unread postby Togetik » 31st May, 2017, 12:11 am

Ω wrote:As long as I can purchase used reproductive organs


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