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Thoughts on marijuana

Unread postby Example » 6th March, 2017, 6:18 pm

I'm looking at different marijuana treatments for anxiety and I'm curious if there is anyone here who is on medical marijuana
or how do you feel about medical marijuana if you're not?
do you think marijuana is good?
do you think marijuana is bad?
do you think it's bad because of science or do you think it's bad because people with power said it was?
I'm super uneducated about this stuff so I don't know what is real and what is fake like if it really causes cancer or if it really heals cancer. I feel like there is nothing official on it
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Re: Thoughts on marijuana

Unread postby Pity » 6th March, 2017, 6:43 pm

I entirely support legalizing marijuana, both recreationally and medically. In fact, medical marijuana should be encouraged before prescribing addictive drugs. It should be regulated just like tobacco, alcohol, and electronic cigarettes.

Is marijuana "good?" Absolutely not. Multiple studies show that it is actually much worse for one's lungs than cigarette smoke, but it is not solid considering how hard research is to conduct in the United States. Moreover, long-term use has shown to decrease mental efficiency.

Is it "bad?" I wouldn't label it as "bad" either. I think it falls in the same category as alcohol as they are both fine in moderation when used socially. It is still a depressant and should not be used when operating a vehicle or with children nearby.

Personally, I dislike marijuana because of its distinct odor; it's nauseating.
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Re: Thoughts on marijuana

Unread postby JonathanT88 » 6th March, 2017, 6:53 pm

Countless studies have proven its relative harmlessness when compared to things like tobacco and alcohol; if people are allowed to use those things to enjoy themselves, then why not a little bit of weed too? It's as simple as that for me.

I've smoked weed quite a few times, always socially. I quite like it, and can't see myself stopping any time in the near future.
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Re: Thoughts on marijuana

Unread postby Example » 6th March, 2017, 7:13 pm

Pity wrote:I entirely support legalizing marijuana, both recreationally and medically. In fact, medical marijuana should be encouraged before prescribing addictive drugs. It should be regulated just like tobacco, alcohol, and electronic cigarettes.

Is marijuana "good?" Absolutely not. Multiple studies show that it is actually much worse for one's lungs than cigarette smoke, but it is not solid considering how hard research is to conduct in the United States. Moreover, long-term use has shown to decrease mental efficiency.

Is it "bad?" I wouldn't label it as "bad" either. I think it falls in the same category as alcohol as they are both fine in moderation when used socially. It is still a depressant and should not be used when operating a vehicle or with children nearby.

Personally, I dislike marijuana because of its distinct odor; it's nauseating.

what about the edibles though like candies and brownies
or the liquid drops instead of smoking it
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Re: Thoughts on marijuana

Unread postby Pity » 6th March, 2017, 7:31 pm

Edibles eliminate the potential damage to lungs that comes from smoke, obviously. The difference is that the high from edibles can be more potent because there is usually a higher THC concentration. Just don't drive or babysit while high, lol.
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Re: Thoughts on marijuana

Unread postby Example » 6th March, 2017, 7:32 pm

I wonder about the medical marijuana items that are made so you don't get high but still get chemical effects
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Re: Thoughts on marijuana

Unread postby Pity » 6th March, 2017, 7:47 pm

Example wrote:I wonder about the medical marijuana items that are made so you don't get high but still get chemical effects


There are strains of marijuana that are specifically grown to have low-THC (the stuff that makes you high) and high concentrations of CBD (the stuff that calms seizures, Parkinson's, has anti-anxiety properties etc.) One such example is an extract called Charlotte's Web, which heavily reduces and helps prevent seizures.

You said you would be using it for anxiety, so you could probably use an indica strain, which provides relaxation and reduced anxiety as it has lower levels of THC and higher levels of CBD over sativa strains, which are the opposite and provide a more euphoric high that helps with depression. Specifically developed strains like Charlotte's Web and certain cannabis oils differ from indica in that they have virtually no high (THC) to them and are geared to those with neurological disorders, not psychological.
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Re: Thoughts on marijuana

Unread postby Mawd » 6th March, 2017, 11:34 pm

I think it can be pretty damn great but you'll also become super fucken lazy if you don't keep track of yourself.

Its super easy to become a habitual creature that just smokes, eats, does something fun, and repeats all three until they can't ignore anything else.

Plus yeah if you smoke a strain that's too strong you risk either becomming too baked to do anything of value or getting trapped in a paranoid loop. The latter hasnt happened to me in a long while but idk if its the strains or I'm just better at not going into that mindset. Still don't smoke if you have something urgent you're worrying about or thats all you'll think of.
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Re: Thoughts on marijuana

Unread postby Togetik » 7th March, 2017, 1:32 am

People attribute way too many positives to it and it's often touted as a miracle cure, but it's mostly harmless and there's no real reason to not legalize it? It can still hurt you, smoking it still damages the lungs but nothing is anywhere near as severe as smoking or alcohol that it can do to you
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Re: Thoughts on marijuana

Unread postby Vortex » 7th March, 2017, 12:22 pm

I don't approve of or support marijuana.
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Re: Thoughts on marijuana

Unread postby Dmitzi » 7th March, 2017, 1:26 pm

If you already have pre-existing mental health problems (or are under the age of 21) you should avoid marijuana (or any other drugs) like the plague.
Go to your GP, and ask to be referred to psychology, and they may be able to prescribe you some medication (certain antidepressants, or at a push a very low dosage of an antipsychotic). You can also get benzodiazepines such as Lorazepam (Ativan) for extreme agitation/anxiety, but avoid using them regularly (I'm allowed to take one for extreme anxiety or agitation).
Try to get referred to psychology (so you can see a psychiatrist). When I went to my GP for depression (I was only going to the GP when I was low - not normal or manic), she stupidly prescribed Citalopram. That triggered a major manic episode which resulted in me being hospitalized. It's safer to go to a psychiatrist as they are better at finding out the root cause and not just using guess work.
Anxiety can be caused by an anxiety disorder, OCD (which you may not even be aware of - one doesn't have to be a 'neat-freak' to have OCD), ASD/Aspergers etc. It's better to see someone who can find out what's causing it, and thus prescribe the appropriate medication. The antidepressants prescribed for anxiety disorders are very specific and unlikely to be prescribed by a GP.
Don't make your mental health even worse on the basis of pseudoscientific batshit-crazy bullshit posted by people who try to spout false 'medical benefits' in order to justify their drug consumption. It's much the same as drinking alcohol because of its 'medical benefits' There's no proof that marijuana actually helps anxiety (it can make you very paranoid, in reality), whilst all of those medications are safe (some may have side effects) and are PROVEN to work.
Why are you trying to 'self-medicate', when you can go and get help from a psychiatrist?
Anyone advocating weed to someone with an anxiety disorder should be ashamed of themselves. It's as bad as telling a cancer patient to consume alcohol.

However, I do believe that more drugs, especially marijuana, should be decriminalised. Ultimately it's up to the person who is consuming said drug whether or not they want to put their own health at risk (it's no different to smoking or drinking, really). Weed is a very mild and relatively harmless drug. Most of its side effects are social (it turns people into lazy couch potatoes, in my opinion). It's only risky for under 21s and people with mental illness.
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Re: Thoughts on marijuana

Unread postby Dmitzi » 7th March, 2017, 1:30 pm

Pity wrote:In fact, medical marijuana should be encouraged before prescribing addictive drugs.
Said 'addictive' drugs are proven to work.... whilst the claims about marijuana's 'medical benefits' are dubious at best. Although, I don't particularly expect someone like you to have much knowledge about mental health, or health in general ("Bipolar disorder makes you retarded" - Pity 2k17) :pukey:
Or basic biology ("BLACK PEOPLE ARE INHERINTELY GENETICALLY INFERIOR AND OMFG I'M NOT RACIST").
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Re: Thoughts on marijuana

Unread postby GeoMorrisons » 7th March, 2017, 7:12 pm

I do believe marijuana, especially medically, has its benefits. Whether or not it kills cancer i'm dubious about, But, this isn't about marijuana and it's supposed cancer treatment properties. Although, it very well could, I wouldn't put it past big drug firms to deny it does.

Marijuana seems a very good painkiller, as well as a longer list of medical uses.

I think marijuana should be legalized; it clearly has its uses, and i don't see the problems governments have with it apart from they're not taxing it, although surely a big incentive to legalize it. You can't exactly tax a black market.

Although, like any drug (including alcohol), it can be addictive. I mean, anything that causes stimulation can be addicting. You can be addicted to sugar, porn, video games, etc. (arguably only a minority of people that eat sugar, watch porn and play games actually get addicted). So obviously there should be support in place for people that do get addicted, as i'm sure there already is.

As something to help with anxiety, i'm not too sure about, some people end up being very anxious when going cold turkey on. according to some top results on google, it benefits anxiety, although people should decide themselves what they believe or not.

Although, i've never tried weed, or any alternative "legal high" (i wouldn't touch "legal highs" even if my life depended on it), i'd be open to it. I certainly think alcohol causes more physical damage to the body than marijuana, but marijuana can certainly take its toll mentally.
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Re: Thoughts on marijuana

Unread postby Example » 7th March, 2017, 7:38 pm

I wonder if using weed everyday is less harmful than alcohol if you only drink once a month
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Re: Thoughts on marijuana

Unread postby Unseasoned Chicken » 7th March, 2017, 7:46 pm

I have nothing against weed and have used it myself in the past, It has great medical benefits as everyone has said but I definitely recommend only using in moderation and only when you need to. I used to think weed was a 'safe' drug which for the most part it is, but after a conversation with a neurophysicist I was made aware on the heavy impacts it has on the brain after prolonged use.
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Re: Thoughts on marijuana

Unread postby Dmitzi » 7th March, 2017, 7:56 pm

Example wrote:I wonder if using weed everyday is less harmful than alcohol if you only drink once a month
It depends on whether or not one smokes the marijuana or not. If it is smoked then it carries many of the same risks as smoking cigarettes. If it is not smoked, then I'd imagine it's technically less /physically/ harmful than getting really drunk once a month. However, if one has pre-existing mental health conditions, consuming marijuana is very dangerous.
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Re: Thoughts on marijuana

Unread postby GeoMorrisons » 7th March, 2017, 8:04 pm

Example wrote:I wonder if using weed everyday is less harmful than alcohol if you only drink once a month


"When experts talk about one drink, they are talking about one 12-ounce bottle of beer, one glass of wine (5 ounces), or one shot (1.5 ounces)... Having more than three drinks in a day (or more than seven per week) for women, and more than four drinks in a day (or more than 14 per week) for men, is considered "heavy" drinking. The kidneys of heavy drinkers have to work harder. Heavy drinking on a regular basis has been found to double the risk for kidney disease."
from https://www.kidney.org/atoz/content/alcohol (more about heavy drinking):

Apart from short term impacts like longer reaction times, i don't see having one drink a month being too harmful beyond the average of "one hour for your body to break down one unit of alcohol. However, this can vary, depending on:
your weight, whether you're male or female, your age, how quickly or slowly your body turns food into energy (your metabolism), how much food you have eaten, the type and strength of the alcohol and whether you're taking medication and, if so, what type. It can also take longer if your liver isn't working normally.
From: http://www.nhs.uk/chq/pages/853.aspx

A better comparison would of probably been smoking tobacco. One full cigarette of that a month would probably be worse than alcohol with the effect it has on your lungs. Although i'm not 100%, and should do more research, it seems tobacco has more carcinogens than alcohol
"Smoke is harmful to lung health. Whether from burning wood, tobacco or marijuana, toxins and carcinogens are released from the combustion of materials. Smoke from marijuana combustion has been shown to contain many of the same toxins, irritants and carcinogens as tobacco smoke.4-7"
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Re: Thoughts on marijuana

Unread postby Reaker » 8th March, 2017, 12:30 am

I think that marihuana is far less harmful short and long term than alcohol and tobacco. I, as most do, know lots if people who smoke cigs, and people who drink excessively. I also know people who smoke weed often. I'd much rather be around the stoner, and they usually tend to be happier, healthier people. AFAIK, weed does have health benefits that go farther than what people say about cigs and alcohol. I'm pretty sure there have been lots of studies that have shown this. I'm not personally a pot smoker, but I think it should be legal for recreational and medical use. Luckily in Canada it is legal for medical, and I know a lot of people who have been helped by it, and still live successful lives. Just my 0.02$. It's a good idea to look at. However, DO NOT self medicate, especially if buying off the street. The last thing you want is to get hooked on meth or fentynal. See a doctor and ask them. Go to a dedicated medical marihuana centre, if possible. Street drugs are just way to risky. Stay safe.
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Re: Thoughts on marijuana

Unread postby Arty » 10th March, 2017, 2:23 pm

Weed is great, should definitely be legal, the fact it isn't yet is a testament to how inefficient democracy actually is, Cigarettes which are just as bad (if not worse) for you than Marijuana are legal whereas Marijuana isn't.

There is no reason why most drugs are illegal, the government isn't your parent why should it regulate what you put in your body if it does no harm to anyone around you. Illegalized drugs just increase worse types of crime such as organized violent crime through drug smuggling ect ect. The amount of money we spend wasting police resources and prison space on dealers who deal cannabis a (relatively) harmless drug is actually ridiculous.
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Re: Thoughts on marijuana

Unread postby George » 10th March, 2017, 3:08 pm

I'm personally of the view that marijuana shouldnt be legal. Whilst it is still less harmless than cigarettes, inhaling no less than 10 times can trigger schizophrenia and other mental health issues in later life. This risk, in my opinion, is far too great to consider legalising it, as the health service should not have to support the mental health needs of people whom suffer because of the use of it.
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